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	<title>Comments on: Kraftweek 2.5 &#8211; &#8216;Autobahn&#8217; at the Tate Modern review</title>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely fair enough Kevin! (Though I think I love pretty much every Miles album - my cat is called Davis and one of my son&#039;s middle names is Miles...) Yes, the audiences seemed decidedly sparse in the pics I&#039;ve seen, perhaps it&#039;s some kind of health and safety thing - I remember a similar situation when I saw Monolake, Alva Noto and co at the Tate a few years back. I guess legacy-wise, it&#039;s a generational thing, the writers and target audiences are of a certain age. Paul Morley of course is one writer who flies the KW flag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely fair enough Kevin! (Though I think I love pretty much every Miles album &#8211; my cat is called Davis and one of my son&#8217;s middle names is Miles&#8230;) Yes, the audiences seemed decidedly sparse in the pics I&#8217;ve seen, perhaps it&#8217;s some kind of health and safety thing &#8211; I remember a similar situation when I saw Monolake, Alva Noto and co at the Tate a few years back. I guess legacy-wise, it&#8217;s a generational thing, the writers and target audiences are of a certain age. Paul Morley of course is one writer who flies the KW flag.</p>
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		<title>By: kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 11:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s all subjective though David</description>
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		<title>By: David Pickett</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Pickett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 11:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Original is best, Kev</description>
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		<title>By: kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 11:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand totally Colin and I think my problem stems from being more interested in Kraftwerk as they were than what they are now. The music stands up although I&#039;m not always a fan of the the way they&#039;ve polished it to bring it up to date (the Mix version of Radioactivity for instance).

Although I don&#039;t want to come across as a purist, all that &#039;original is best&#039; nonsense, I just prefer a certain part of their career in the same way as I don&#039;t like all of Miles Davis&#039; or Beach Boys albums. My favourite material is from Autobahn to CW, I can take or leave the rest bar the odd track. The visual thing is just a personal thing that I can&#039;t shake any more than someone who works in film will mentally desconstruct a shot or effect whilst watching a movie, it&#039;s just hardwired now and, try as I might, I can&#039;t &#039;not see&#039; it.

The exclusivity thing is baffling, both in Dusseldorf and at the Tate, they could have got several hundred more people in at both venues. The limit on tickets for shows etc. I suppose they are trying to stop touts and that&#039;s admirable but when there is space in the room for more people it&#039;s just odd. At all the gigs, I could have got right to the front as easily as I could walk up to a bar.
Of all the &#039;celebs&#039; I spoke to, they were all there reviewing the gig for certain radio or magazines (OMD were doing 8 interviews about Kraftwerk in the next week alone) that&#039;s be be expected really, the first concert is going to be the most heavily reviewed. On the legacy thing, I think it&#039;s time the music press woke up personally, there needs to be a shift away from this stranglehold of the Beatles/Stones/Who/Dylan/Doors/Hendrix/Clapton fixation and realise that there&#039;s more out there. I&#039;d say Kraftwerk are now un-arguably one of the most influential band of the last 40 years as they permeate so much music outside of the rock and pop world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand totally Colin and I think my problem stems from being more interested in Kraftwerk as they were than what they are now. The music stands up although I&#8217;m not always a fan of the the way they&#8217;ve polished it to bring it up to date (the Mix version of Radioactivity for instance).</p>
<p>Although I don&#8217;t want to come across as a purist, all that &#8216;original is best&#8217; nonsense, I just prefer a certain part of their career in the same way as I don&#8217;t like all of Miles Davis&#8217; or Beach Boys albums. My favourite material is from Autobahn to CW, I can take or leave the rest bar the odd track. The visual thing is just a personal thing that I can&#8217;t shake any more than someone who works in film will mentally desconstruct a shot or effect whilst watching a movie, it&#8217;s just hardwired now and, try as I might, I can&#8217;t &#8216;not see&#8217; it.</p>
<p>The exclusivity thing is baffling, both in Dusseldorf and at the Tate, they could have got several hundred more people in at both venues. The limit on tickets for shows etc. I suppose they are trying to stop touts and that&#8217;s admirable but when there is space in the room for more people it&#8217;s just odd. At all the gigs, I could have got right to the front as easily as I could walk up to a bar.<br />
Of all the &#8216;celebs&#8217; I spoke to, they were all there reviewing the gig for certain radio or magazines (OMD were doing 8 interviews about Kraftwerk in the next week alone) that&#8217;s be be expected really, the first concert is going to be the most heavily reviewed. On the legacy thing, I think it&#8217;s time the music press woke up personally, there needs to be a shift away from this stranglehold of the Beatles/Stones/Who/Dylan/Doors/Hendrix/Clapton fixation and realise that there&#8217;s more out there. I&#8217;d say Kraftwerk are now un-arguably one of the most influential band of the last 40 years as they permeate so much music outside of the rock and pop world.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 10:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review, many thanks. You&#039;re a lucky bastard to have got a ticket. I&#039;m trying my level best not to feel bitter about not being able to go: http://www.eleventhvolume.com/miscellany/2012/12/12/on-not-getting-kraftwerk-tickets-today/, but with the blanket coverage in full swing, it&#039;s quite a challenge. 

I really can&#039;t see any problem with their curated presentation - it makes perfect sense to me that they would excise those first albums. Minimum Maximum says it all. And, unlike you, I love Expo 2000 and TdFS as much as their earlier work. Agree that the quality of some of the visuals is below standard, first noticed on the MinMax concert dvds, the only thing I can think is maybe that&#039;s a little endearing, that Kraftwerk really remain a non-corporate, non-&#039;airbrushed&#039; entity.

My one hesitation is the exclusivity of these events and the appearance of celebs and media. The group are clearly focusing on repositioning themselves in terms of legacy, staking a claim quite rightly to be considered outside of just music, to be taken seriously on an aesthetic level by playing art galleries. This plays against the sense of Kraftwerk being democratic and potentially available for everybody. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m explaining that very well and it&#039;s only a minor concern - after all, anyone can still buy their records, watch and access on the web, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review, many thanks. You&#8217;re a lucky bastard to have got a ticket. I&#8217;m trying my level best not to feel bitter about not being able to go: <a href="http://www.eleventhvolume.com/miscellany/2012/12/12/on-not-getting-kraftwerk-tickets-today/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eleventhvolume.com/miscellany/2012/12/12/on-not-getting-kraftwerk-tickets-today/</a>, but with the blanket coverage in full swing, it&#8217;s quite a challenge. </p>
<p>I really can&#8217;t see any problem with their curated presentation &#8211; it makes perfect sense to me that they would excise those first albums. Minimum Maximum says it all. And, unlike you, I love Expo 2000 and TdFS as much as their earlier work. Agree that the quality of some of the visuals is below standard, first noticed on the MinMax concert dvds, the only thing I can think is maybe that&#8217;s a little endearing, that Kraftwerk really remain a non-corporate, non-&#8217;airbrushed&#8217; entity.</p>
<p>My one hesitation is the exclusivity of these events and the appearance of celebs and media. The group are clearly focusing on repositioning themselves in terms of legacy, staking a claim quite rightly to be considered outside of just music, to be taken seriously on an aesthetic level by playing art galleries. This plays against the sense of Kraftwerk being democratic and potentially available for everybody. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m explaining that very well and it&#8217;s only a minor concern &#8211; after all, anyone can still buy their records, watch and access on the web, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Zuppinger</title>
		<link>http://www.djfood.org/djfood/kraftweek-2-5-autobahn-at-the-tate-modern/comment-page-1#comment-7449</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Zuppinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 15:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting thought, the man machine taking over, and in a way yes, it does look as if this was the plan all along. thanks for the amazing description of this gig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting thought, the man machine taking over, and in a way yes, it does look as if this was the plan all along. thanks for the amazing description of this gig.</p>
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